Dore Talk

hello everyone, i have been doing exercises from his last book,as i have no printer to print exercises of pc, cant get them to in large so i can read what he needs to do, my son is now saying there is no point as the doctor isnt seeing him any more so how can they say if his getting any better,

how can the dore give these exercises without seeing if jamie has improved, they say each exercises they give is done for jamie, but if his not being tested how can they say its the right exercise, jamie as refussed to do exercises for 2 days,  confussed  what to do, we havent heard anything since i came on here last, im feeling so fed up, and dont now what to do with jamie,

Kayc, did you see Wynford's last message. It was very hopeful. Look at the Dore UK website as well. Things are moving on and there will be assessments available soon once things get sorted. Tell him this. I'm sorry you're finding things so hard right now, but Jamie needs to carry on.

They've added MyDiary now and that may be another way to see how the exercises are going and a way of upgrading. It will obviously take a while to get everyone to an assessment, but it will happen. 

 Dont give up Kay. i can understand how you feel but its important to keep it going.Remember your son is only 9 and will not nessesarily want to do the exercises anyway (if our son is anything to go by) but be honest with him, show him the wynford email and Video and exlain that this looks like a temporary hiccup and things look like they will pick up again soon.Dont be disheartened, there are people here who will support you and help you do the right thing for your son.The other option is do nothing ,and that is not really an option 

all the best and chin up,

ian and Liz

Kay, I feel for you as I am too getting to a point where my son wants to finish his exercises.  He has had "meltdowns" before earlier during the program.  However we have always got him back on track by talking about how DORE is helping him and showing him videos and stories on the internet on how DORE has improved other childrens lives.  His problem now is that he knows he is close to finishing and he doesn't want to keep going indefinately.

Is your son aware of how he has improved since he started DORE?  Can you convince him along the lines of reminding him what he used to be like?

Good luck

Alison

Hi everyone

It has given me encouragement reading this thread as my son has also hit a very low point in motivation to do his excersises.

At 16, he does know his own mind! He has just completed his GCSE exams and on our last visit he was concerned that he would miss the odd day because of 'exam pressure' he was given some grace, and told to try and not miss, but the very odd day would be OK. Since his exams have finished, and of course no follow up appointment/assessment he is starting to lack motivation,(even though he KNOWS he wouldn't be where he is now if he hadn't been going to Dore and doing his excersises.) I am working hard to convince and cajole him to do his excersises, a severe dose of tonsilitis hasn't helped!

However, the latest 'post' from Wynford Dore has given him hope and he has promised to start again with 'energy' once he feels better. I have also encouraged him to read the various threads on this forum, it all seems to be less 'black' now, he is starting to believe, as I do, that he will be able to complete the programme, and that there will be an assessment, and not too far into the future.

It is still a stuggle, he does often say 'What's the point?' but I hope by reading that he is not alone in feeling like this and that there are others like me still believe assessments and appointments will happen eventually, he will find it in himself to continue and work through this barrier!

Hi Kay,

Do you have any friends with a printer that can print them for you, or is school helpful can they print them? I am sure if you could generate some new exercises it would really help. Maybe ask the IT people on the mydore website.

It is hard for us mums (and the kids) sometimes to get the exercises done every day and keep that motivation going. We've only been doing them for 3 months and some days does feel like a real battle especially like this weekend when Lucy went to a sleepover and I had to make her do them when she got home! It makes me feel like a real meany mum but if I don't do it will all be wasted.

Stay strong, Wynfords last message really made it feel like there's hope and maybe you can convince Jamie that he needs to keep going as everything he's done up 'til now could be wasted. Also if a follow up appointment suddenly came up how would he feel if he had to tell them he'd given up! Wynford and all those IT people who are working for nothing aren't giving up so neither must we.

Keep going Jamie!

Following on from Lucy's suggestion, what about using the computer in the local library. They don't charge much to use the printer if you don't have a friend to call on.

....as Lucy says, keep going Jamie, you know deep down it will be worth it!

Hi Kayc

My son ian is also 10 and we have had a similar thing of "Theres no point, Dore is closed". Someone suggested to me to use the video guides on the Mydore site. I showed him how to log on and now he want's to start the computer up to see which excercise he has to do and watch the video. Doing that has given him some control over the excercises and it's not just me telling him what to do. Show him the e-mails from Wynford Dore and explain that it may take a while but he will be going back for an assessment soon.

kayc:

hello everyone, i have been doing exercises from his last book,as i have no printer to print exercises of pc, cant get them to in large so i can read what he needs to do, my son is now saying there is no point as the doctor isnt seeing him any more so how can they say if his getting any better,

how can the dore give these exercises without seeing if jamie has improved, they say each exercises they give is done for jamie, but if his not being tested how can they say its the right exercise, jamie as refussed to do exercises for 2 days,  confussed  what to do, we havent heard anything since i came on here last, im feeling so fed up, and dont now what to do with jamie,

hi everyone,  i have managed to talk jamie into doing his exercises again,started to do them again today,he has missed 6 days, i think he was just so upset and fed up,because jamies app should have been 10/6/08 should i generate new exercises, and whats create exercise book pdf, i have been on mydore and have managed to inlarge print out so i can read it and watch video, my problem is i dont get it, how it works, it has..

a sq sign with...(by) then (bw) then(nb)..(ap)...(cx)

                        (qn) (jo) (lb) (ip) (dg)

and its the same with the star and triangle....then it says extra exercises (mj) (cv) 

can someone explain it all to me so i can understand,

jamie normaly does exercises 2 times a day, his never had to do extra exercises,

thanks to you all for getting back to me, kay

Hi Kayc,

The two letter codes refer to the exercise codes. (Look in book at right hand side,) each code is different and gives dore a reference if you phone with a particular problem with an exercise, they would ask you for the code and then they can tell which exercise you mean.

The extra exercises don't mean that you have to do more than 2 exercises twice a day, they are additional exercises if you go through a section quicker than the others by getting alot of easy marks.

Hope this helps make things clearer,

Tigger

I am feeling the same as your son with ADHD, Dyslexia and Dyspraxia I am having hard time seeing the point of continuing with no sign of the cardiff centre ever reopening and no way to get to kilnworth I am trully begruding paying the finance company zebra the £67 a month for something I am not getting which is face to face help if I want just exercises I would have bought a book for £80 and saved myself about 4k. Sorry if I seem negative but I am finding it so hard not to get depressed when this was the only hope I had I cried when it closed like someone had wripped away my chances of ever getting rid of these difficulties and going to university.

Now by books lay dusty and I can't find any of the drive to do the exercises because what the point if someone can't test you and tell you how well your doing? I need the positive reenforcement and on carers allowance I struggle to make payments to Zebra and I am so upset because I feel I have been robbed. I want sdo much for the centres to reopened or find some way to get out of the finance agreement so I can stop struggling for a dream I cant achieve,.[:'(]

 Laura we are all feeling the same loss but you have to change your thought patterns on what you see that you have lost and look at what we still have. We have only lost the assessments not the programme and also if your like me and the need to travel for the 6 weekly assessments did produce a huge hole in my finanaces, that equation is now out of it.

Motivation is a big consideration in this and to a certain degree it is up to us ourselves to keep our motivation going without the assessments. We have the forums to help us, I learned more on these than I did at the assessments because there are those that have gone through it all willing and able to give us support and guidance through the whole process.

The future clients of Dore will not have the 6 weekly assessments we have had, they will only have the 3-4 monthly assessments until they reach the stage that their progress can be predicted by using mydore and they will then continue without the assessments till they finish.

Because I had the past experience with Leila I know that Kieran will benefit just as much even without the regular assessments. I do think that the thought of what we had paid initially expecially if money is tight will have an affect on how we percieve the new Dore and how it knocks our confidence and motivation. But can I be honest and say with Leila we paid for each assessment as she went and by the time she finished we had paid a lot more than what we will have paid for Kieran.

Maybe that is why I can be so positive about the future with Mydore. What I initially paid out for Kieran is only a fraction of what I paid for leila, it does not include the cost of getting to and from the center.Once the local partnerships are up and running then it will be avaliable for so many more and they too will reap the benefits by using mydore. One thing I will say is I will be one of them because I too desperately need it. Ellie XXX

Hiya, I know the feeling. My Grandson has been on the programme since November 07 and now we as a family feel lost and unsupported. I can understand all too well how your son feels as I am also having trouble getting our boy to 'keep going'. I also agree that it's so important to have your child seen to get them assesed and have rang and suggested a 'mobile' facitilty could be set up to travel to various cities to enable patients to be seen. It seems a cop out to just expect us all to carry on via a computer screen. We paid £2.310.in November had only 3 appointments and now all we have is exercises on a computer.I was told today by DORE that for every day that exercise is missed it puts the 'patient' back three days, so I am going to keep pushing for another few weeks hoping that we will hear about a center opening nearer to us. We have been offered an appointment in Kenilworth but this is too far away. I do wish you well and hope you get some encouraging news soon.

Keep smiling, we can only hope!! Love Maureen

Keeping going with the exercises particulary when you are not sure whether they are having any affect or not, is difficult with or without the assessments.  My son has constantly had phases of argueing and refusing to do them.  Yes, when there were regular assessments it was more motivating.  However, unfortunately I think we have to remember that for DORE to continue they have had to make changes, and I believe it is better to have DORE in this form than no DORE at all.

For those who are struggling with payments I can quite understand your frustration - you are still paying for a service that you are no longer getting.  However, try to remember that DORE could have just walked away.  That is what most companies that go into liquidation do.

 Can those who are struggling with motivation get together with local people who are also doing DORE.  Do you have any links with other people in MyDore? It is so important to keep going with the exercises and the only people who understand how difficult it is are other people who either have done or are going through the program.

 Good luck and keep going.  My 11 year old son is really pleased he did.

Wynfords last video was saying about MyDore 2 in the offing soon which will have the area of motivation added to it.  Which ever way we look at it the MYDore site was a engenoius design in the making and will see many future Dore children finish with the same progress as us even with the fewer assessments.

As Allie says geting in touch with other people in your area can help immensely as you are all going through the same problems. That was one reason I started posting on forums originally to aid others going through the process.

The MyDore site support group is a starting place for everyone as it will let you know how many in your area are wanting support from each other. You can then go from there and arrange to meet as a group or just one or two. Ellie XXX